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the fiscal cliff talks? >> right now, susie, the fiscal cliff talks are clearly the item dejure for the stock market. i think most people expect exactly what eric miller was talking about from the fed. and bern bueno ben bernanke hasn transparent and telling people well in advance what he is going to do. the $85 billion should continue building up for our taxpayers balance sheet. >> susie: how does all of this play out in the markets. all of the bond buying, companies are still lding off from hiring and spending, and now the risk, possibly of a recession. how does it play out in the markets for 2013? >> what has happened, with all of this cash going into the market -- into the economy, not only from the u.s. fed, but from europe, from the central bank there, as well as from china, don't forget, so we've had this liquidity which has taken asset prices with the stock market and the bond markets, pricing it way up, it is actually helping housing after a long wait. moving into the future, there will be some duction in relythe fear that people have. it is not only a lack of confidence, but it is a
" with liz claman. liz: the fiscal cliff talk is everywhere, always good to be hearing about lately, but is there really something else that can be bubbling under the surface that could send the market into a tailspin that we should be talking about now? join me in a fox business exclusive, 2003 nobel laureate in economics and nyse will institute director. he has a whole institute for volatility. spotting risk. we thought let's bring you in and talk about noo the fiscal cliff of the three hidden risks people should be talking about but aren't. how did you identify them? >> there are lots of things people worry about, but which of the really big ones and what kind of a timefram time frame ae talking about? decade?out next week or next we talk about the big risk to have to look further in the future. liz: the next year or so? 20 years, 50 years perhaps. number three. you say it's all the unfunded pension liability risk globally, how is that a hidden risks? >> there are pension funds like social security which are not well funded in the future, that is one of the big topics of the fisc
to go over the fiscal cliff. host: here is the story from the "new york times" today. we are talking about the fiscal cliff negotiations and whether compromise or sticking to principles should be what members of congress and the president should do here. a couple of weets this morning. when leaders say -- when people say leaders should stick to their principles, they mean leaders should stick to my principles. a lot of columns this morning talking about this issue, the ongoing fiscal cliff negotiations. here is "the washington post." we are taking your thoughts on the issue. but gutted the independent line. welcome to the "washington journal." caller: i agree also with a caller on the democrat line. i agree with what he was referring to -- c-span changing a with bias. the issues, they did not talk about it. the ones who are behind it are the political parties. the industrial military complex host: if the country does off of the fiscal cliff, who do you think it's more of the blame on this? it is the president of the united states or congress? caller: the people are being brainwashed
the jobs number, but we saw a breakdown when the fiscal cliff talks started to develop. so continue to watch any of those talks with boehner and obama, and if they make any kind of progress. then we can see the s&p start to build momentum on that and travel upward. > people who were investing overseas are very happy about what is happening in europe. german stocks are soaring. is it too late to get in? > > we saw the dax push up to a 52-week high last week. really the key here is safety. they are using that stock market as their safety gauge if they are trading over in europe. so, if the safety play continues to warrant being ultra- conservative, yeah, you are going to see that market continue to move upward. if traders want to take on a little bit more risk and spread to some of the other european sovereign-debt nations like spain or greece, then you are probably going to see that safety play back off a little bit. > there are always places to park money. good to have you on the show this morning. have a great trading day. > > you too. if you're not yet fully awake this monday, her
of these fiscal cliff talks that are causing such volatility in the market here? >> well, bill, as you said, we are long-term investors. we really don't find ourselves wanting to move things around that much. >> you're not playing these swings here? you don't buy on dips? >> we're not playing the dips and selling the volleys. >> are you expecting that we will be able to get into this market as better prices at lower prices at some point before year end? >> that would be a very short-term question. i don't know the answer to it. >> and you're not a short-term guy. >> eric, what about you? how are you allocating capital these days? >> you know, we're allocating capital much the same way we have been doing for the last few months, which is thinking, again, sort of long term like was just said. you can do things around the fringes, but they have to be, you know, considered a small move rather than something aggressive. we still don't have enough answers to know what the ultimate outcome is going to be. >> mark, what about you? you know, we tend to oversimplify. right now the feeling is resolution t
in the back and forth on the fiscal cliff talks. the polls out, this is one from gallup. and the new york post shows this poll -- back to our topic, our question, do you support or oppose right-to-work laws? paul in utica, michigan, democrat. caller: i live in suburban detroit. i am a retired union worker, not automotive, by the way. i don't think my union is a thug in any way, but i think it's a sad day for the state of michigan. if the workers in this country cannot look to michigan like they always have, for a decent pay, and i think that is where we are headed, i just think it is a sad day. all the people who voted for these republicans, they are going to get what they asked for. this is what is going on here. i really sad about it. host: the car czar for michigan said it's a choice between your jobs and higher wages or more jobs and lower wages. ay we may end up with lower wages. it is a move in the wrong direction. i think we would have gotten more jobs year even without this. as the automotive and the economy grew here. i think it was on its way. i did not think we needed this. so, a do
the iranians from going weaponized. all this fiscal cliff talk reminds us of cliffhangers in the movies but which cliff scene will washington's dare devil act look like? could we see both sides leap to safety at the last minute like paul newman and robert redford in butch cassidy or could it be more like rebels without a cause drag racing toward a danger they don't appreciate until it's too late. [screaming] there are other movies where going over the cliff is a planned thing like it was for bill murray's desperate character trying to end his recurring nightmare in "groundhog day." >> we musn't keep it waiting. >> he might be ok. chris: the worst movie analogy we could imagine ends badly for all concerned. let's hope and pray that thelma and louise are not boehner and obama. my own favorite clip is mount rushmore, "north by northwest," the hitchcock great with cary grant pursued by spies. the survival is never in doubt. not sure if that's true now. when we return, the hillary clinton for 2016 talk is ready to roar. scoops and predictions. chris: we just re-elected barack obama but the h
up for a second, steven, we talk about the fiscal cliff every day. those who are in the market talk about the fiscal cliff every day. does the average consumer out there moms and pops, do they talk about the fiscal cliff? does it factor into their spending efforts? >> not really. that's a great question. and the answer is no, not really. what i think really is happening with the michigan numbers and the sentiment numbers is a little bit of optimism that followed on the back of the election process. and then it's settling back in that nothing's going to change. nothing is going to get better. nothing's happening in washington. there is no movement towards consensus on either side of the debate. people look at that and say what were we so optimistic about? i think the cliff will be more of an effect afterwards. but to go back to stewart's point, he's talking about 2% growth in spending. 2% consumer growth is probably going to produce a very weak gdp number. although we had a nice number on the boost, we'll have a horrible in the next quarter. which isn't great. that's really the point
. and there are fiscal cliff talks and on capitol hill for a single day, all was quiet. that's always bad news if you are a political reporter, shannon travis live in washington, d.c.. there are some people who say well, let's read into the silence, because that's all we're getting and it's good news. do you feel that way? >> could be potentially good news. there is this notion of not negotiating through the media. the stakes are high, puts pressure on both sides. so on? that sense, as much as we would love to know what's going on in these discussions, it might be good to take some of the pressure off. i will read a statement from house speaker john boehner's press secretary. discussions with the white house are taking place, but we have no detail to share about the substances of those conversations. the republican offer made last week remains the republican offer and we continue to wait for the president to identify the spending cuts he's willing to make as part of the balanced approach he promised the american people. obviously, the president is saying he is waiting as well, soledad. waiting for re
to the 88-89 level. the fiscal cliff talks not going anywhere yet. during the next two weeks we will start to see some positive remarks. one thing that is very interesting, heat and oil settled in a very weak position. those two coming off could take the energy complex down much further. right now only 85 to 85.10. cheryl: we have plenty of supply out there right now. we are in the middle of winter. >> we have a tremendous amount of supply. we do not have much cold weather coming up near term. once the fiscal cliff starts getting resolved, you will see some buying going on. cheryl: bobby, i want to go back to you about europe. we have not had a lot of problees. seems like the greeks are kind to getting things. >> the last few days, europe markets have been pretty strong. as you said, a sleeping giant. cheryl: i do not want to see anything change. it has been nice. gentlemen, thank you. i appreciate it. great floor show today. uncertainty seems to be the norm in washington these days. last year you have the debt ceiling convey. congress had trouble putting together a deal. now the u.s. may
fiscal cliff talks with the white house. on capitol hill for one day at least, all was pretty quiet. posturing and finger pointing kind of stopped. cnn political reporter shannon travis joins us now live from washington. what's the the latest on the talks or the silence? >> the silence seems to be golden, john. remember last week when all the players involved seem to be posturing and positioning and talking about negotiations? not so much, at least in the past few days. we know president obama and house speaker john boehner had a one-on-one meeting, right, on sunday, their first since mid-november. what were the details from that meeting and from the ongoing discussions? they're not really -- both sides are not really being forthcoming with what the substance of those conversations, both sides yesterday, the white house and the republican leadership put out statements. they're essentially the same. i'll read just one from boehner's press secretary. discussions with the white house are taking place but we have no detail to share about the substance of those conversations. the republi
talking about every morning here since the election. fiscal cliff, big, big issue. there are now, it seems, growing numbers of people on both the right and the left who would like to see us just go over that fiscal cliff. how big of a problem would that be? >> that would be a big problem. i actually still believe that those -- the democrats, the administration, republicans in the final analysis don't want to see that happen. they do understand that not only would that present a problem in the near term as we went over the cliff at the end of the year, but we still then have the whole debt ceiling fight that would transpire shortly into the new year. the issue isn't simply the negative result of going over the cliff, but it's also that business, consumers, everybody continues to hold back on the uncertainty. and we believe the economy is pretty well positioned potentially in 2013 if we can put this behind us. so i think a lot of what's going on is what you would expect to see in this negotiation, very public negotiation, which is not the best way to do it. i think at some point, the preside
will see. robert, as always, thank you very much. dagen: a new development in the fiscal cliff talks. it could include an overhaul of the corporate tax code. with reaction, let's bring in congresswoman loretta sanchez. she is from the beautiful state of california. congresswoman, good to see you. are you on board with this? >> well, i will have to see the moving pieces before i make a decision on things. certainly, i always thought that if we could, we would put in corporate tax rates, not individual rates. we will see. we will see if the president and speaker boehner can come up with a deal. and, secondly, if speaker boehner has enough votes to have enough people vote for it. dagen: we have heard from senator harry reid once again. if the democrats do not get the tax increase on wealthy americans that he is willing to go over the cliff, the end of the year. we are awfully close. >> remember that congress always has the ability to set a new set of tax rates. even if we went through december 31 and these rates went away and everybody's taxes increased, honestly, some more than others,
's talking points memo many believe the president has the upper hand in the fiscal cliff negotiations. if we gopher 00 cliff republicans think they will get most of the blame. if they give in to tax hikes conservatives believe they will infuriate their base. senator rand paul even believes that since they have such little leverage in the talks of president obama. well, republicans should just get out of the way and let the democrats raise taxes as much as they want. and then let the president take responsibility for party of high taxes. now can i understand senator paul's thinking especially given the fact that the president has already announced ahead of his mano a mano meeting can john boehner that he won't concede an inch on tax cuts. this republican defeatism news broke of jim demint's departure from the senate yesterday. is he a tea party warrior and demint is a hero to part of the g.o.p.'s 2010 midterm route. now he is off to head off a think tank the heritage foundation. let's face it the g.o.p. needs new energy. it needs branding help. heck, we have a lot of issues resolve amongst ou
. the president's refusal to budge in negotiations with the g.o.p. on fiscal cliff talks. joining me now university of chicago booth school of business professor and former chairman of the council of economic advisors under president obama, dr. austan goolsbee. dr. goolsbee, where is the stethoscope? come on, i see it there hello, good to see you, austin. >> hey, laura great to see you again. i painted the pictures why conservatives should figure it out and not be in despair. on the other side of the equation you have the president. let's say the president gets his tax hikes. you know, everyone thinks they are going to have higher taxes in the new year. so he gets tax hikes. but then what? i mean, the new normal that's being painted by your friends over at the oecd say our girls will probably be about 2.2%. 2% maybe if we're luck in next year. the new normal even with high taxes doesn't look good. >> yeah. let's hope it's higher than that i think it's going to be a bumpy 60 days in my view. fiscal cliff. as low as that 2% is. the awful state of the world right now is that is about the fa
that goes. you don't get it. all right, stocks closely watching the fiscal cliff talks. coming up, chief investment officer will tell us what will happen if there is a deal where if there is no deal. ashley: michael bloomberg crack a joke the only people buying egos. he could soon become one of those. as it everyday at this time, take a look at how oil is trading moving slightly lower even though the suggestion demand from china is off, oil down slightly by $0.10, 85.83 per barrel. tracy: it is time to make some money with charles payne. this hour he is looking at online networking site linked in. getting a little bounce, but has been on a tear. charles: this is a incredible stock. you put six flights out of business. i'm telling you right now. today part of the reason it is up, kind of odd, some sort of stock speculation mayor bloomberg may be interested in doing something, taking it over. even without that, this is a stock i like a lot. at least the third time this year my subscribers are in a stock. the latter earning report my two cents coby district by 100%, the stock finally looked
. >> reporter: good evening. we are monitoring fiscal cliff talks. it's been radio silence from democrats and republicans in washington. they're sticking to preagreed upon talking points explaining that lines of communication are open. we don't know what it is speaker baner and barack obama are hashing out behind closed doors but more republicans are gravitating to the idea of compromising on a tax rate increase so long as they can get what they want for spending and entitlement cuts. listen. >> those rates are going up. we either act now to keep them from going up from as many people as possible or they will go up on everyone. that's a disaster. let's recognize reality, take care of as many people as we can. >> meanwhile, you're right. the president was in detroit where he continued his outside-inside game of running a campaign-style effort to jin up popular support for the fiscal cliff. because he was in michigan he took a whack at the proposed legislation -- the so-called right to work legislation. listen to the president. >> these so-called right to work laws don't have to do with eco
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're going to have a look at republicans and the fiscal cliff negotiations with radio talk-show host and columnist armstong williams. that is coming up next as we continue the "washington journal." ♪ >> why a writers institute? i think it is very important within the culture. we are a culture of words, of voices. words are key to our imagination, our capacity to envision things. we ourselves are not completely tied to print on the page. but i think that there is no other art form so readily accessible other than perhaps -- but it is something -- there is something in literature that captures the humans. . >> this weekend, we look behind the scenes at the history and literary life of new york's capital city, albany, on c-span to and it c-span3. span3.c- [bell rings] >> this weekend on c-span3, follow harry truman's eldest grandson to hiroshima. >> everybody has their own view of what happened. survivalant to argue or about the history. i think we are past that. my goal for behing here is to honor the dead nand listen to the living and do what i can to ensure this does not happen aga
we're talking about a possible fiscal cliff. we're not off the cliff. >> right. >> if it's january 2nd or 3rd and the stock market is going down by a couple thousand points around the world. the japanese markets, european countries, countries in europe which are precarious are in bigger trouble. the whole thing is going wacky, one guy is going to be standing in the middle of the storm, not grover norquist or some republican, but the president of the united states who has to weather the storm and point the finger across the aisle to someone nobody else in the world knows and says, speaker boehner, would you solve this problem? i'm not sure -- that's why i'm against you on this one. i think times have changed. >> economically the biggest risk is the sequestration. it's not the tax cuts going into effect. and -- >> you mean the millions of dollars -- >> the cuts that will be forced through in the next two years. that's a much bigger risk to the economy. >> therefore? >> therefore, if the president lets this thing -- look, the markets have already priced this in. >> i hear the opposite.
is in transportation, too -- we are mired in conversations about the fiscal cliff. we are talking about long-term infrastructure, a long term energy plan. >> this is the perfect opportunity for the government to work together to achieve a common goal. there is plenty of times when our interest might not call last with the interest of either of the parties. this is the opportunity we have never had before. you could have consumer, business, and the government's all working together to take advantage of this huge resource. for us, it makes so much sense because it makes business sense. we get about $1.65 a quilt when natural gas. from the government point of view, everybody is talking about jobs and the fiscal cliff. everyone talks about taxes and what is going to happen with the fiscal cliff. there has been $1500 gone to increase oil prices. you can get them that tax cut today if you invested in our report. everybody talks about entitlements. high oil prices make the social security trust insolvent five years sooner than they would if he did not have high oil prices. america needs jobs and gr
face-to-face as always. jon. jon: the fiscal cliff talk is ticking less than three week to go to hammer out a deal before automatic spending cuts and kick in. house speaker boehner has made it clear republicans are staying in washington before and after christmas to solve the crisis as the president pushes his plan with bipartisan group of mayors and community leaders. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel live on capitol hill. we had slight movement on the fiscal cliff negotiations, mike, but it doesn't really sound like they're close to a deal, huh? >> reporter: that's right, jon. president obama reduced his new revenue demand from $1.6 trillion over 10 years to $1.4 trillion over 10 years. house speaker john boehner says he is the most optimistic guy in washington but serious differences remain and the republicans may not feel like they have a whole lot of leverage in the negotiations with a democrat in the white house and democrat controlling the senate but they are threatening when it comes to the calendar. take a listen. >> the president seems to be walking you ever so sl
are talking about the fiscal cliff and what you are willing to sacrifice. glendale, ariz., republican caller, go ahead. caller: this social security, some rocket scientists figured out that we do not need energy that we do not need, paying for these increases for two years. now they are reviewing it and i am just sort of disappointed with our people up there. they just do not seem to understand that they are not doing their job. this crisis, everything that happened, the people are not doing their jobs. the only way to get rid of them, i am just really disappointed. host: i assume you are on medicare? caller: yes, i am. host: how much do you get each month? caller: $1,200. i am also on disability. my pension and stuff. they always bring it back to the older people. they always want to tax us for the problems that they create. host: what do you think about the idea of raising the eligibility age for medicare over a certain amount of years? caller: it depends on the operation you are in. i was a mechanic and my knees went to hack. i do not know what they do with people like me who have a job t
to the united states, bill richardson. so that interview coming up later. >>> as fiscal cliff talks here in washington are showing little movement towards a deal, there's now a new report that president obama may be willing to put raising the eligibility age for medicare on the table. is that true? we will discuss more this more in our strategy. can i help you? i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. welcome to chevy's year-end event. so, the 5.3-liter v8 silverado can tow up to 9,600 pounds? 315 horsepower. what's that in reindeer-power? [ laughs ] [ pencil scratches ] [ male announcer ] chevy's giving more. get the best offer of the year -- 0% apr financing for 60 months plus $1,000 holiday bonus cash. plus trade up for an additional $1,000 trade-in allowance. hurry. bonus cash ends january 2nd. humans -- sometimes life trips us up
talking to her about the fiscal cliff, she gets an e-mail. >> yeah! my interview. great. okay. that's good news. >> reporter: a third interview for a sales job. if washington can't do it, maybe this job will pull her back from the cliff. >> oh my god. i can't believe how excited i am right now. >> more than 500 years but the lady behind da vinci's smile is behind speculation. italian archaeologists might have found the missing link to the mystery of mona lisa. they've excavated remains which they think belong to the woman who modeled for the famous painting. ben wedeman reports from the excavation site. >> reporter: the smile has per perplexed for centuries. the mona lisa. in the frigid bowels of what was once a convent in florence, the television producer turned art researcher is leading a project to find and identify remains of the woman who posed for da vin economy more than 500 years ago. historical documents indicate this is the place where he's 15 de gherardini was buried. remains of five females were found here. the skull may be that of the second wife of a wealthy florence silk mer
. ashley: tough new talk on the fiscal cliff. americans are scratching their heads wondering when president obama will get serious. tracy: the president's reelection leaving small businesses weigh more pessimistic about the future. bill dunkelberg is here. we will ask him what, if anything, to boost confidence among america's job creators. ashley: time for stocks now as a do every 15 minutes. let's head down to the call petallides. nicole: this is a pretty good day on wall street. this is looking like the fourth week where we are seeing gains. we did hear from house speaker john boehner. he smoothed it over and gave the sense that they are working hard in washington in order to solve the fiscal cliff. also, the dollar is lower. that is playing a part. most of the dow components have been in the green. trip advisor. we are watching trip advisor. it has been rallying. what they are trying to do is get in there. it would be more about changing some management. liberty acquired the share. this is part of the action here we are seeing. off its earlier highs. back to you. ashley: thank you very m
, beyond six months, that we are talking about with the fiscal cliff talks. host: that is what might be cut? guest: that is what automatically expires. president obama said as part of the deal i want to make, those benefits should continue. republicans have not taken a firm stand, but we have seen in the past that obama has had it a deal on taxes to get the benefits extended. host: what specific benefits to these programs provide? guest: usually some kind of cash benefit, help you search for a job. it is about $300 per week. sometimes it varies by state. host: and how are the programs funded? guest: by payroll taxes. you pay payroll taxes to the state and federal government. it does to a federal trust, and state administers the program and the money goes to the unemployed. host: talk about qualification for unemployment insurance. what do people have to me to apply, how are they selected? at guest: generally, you have to have a year of earnings over a certain threshold and you have to be let go from a job. the way the structure works, it is hard to say if you graduate from college and you d
as a nation. because this is a big deal, and we're talking about a fiscal cliff and great drama. if we stay on the same spending path, i thought i'd show you what happens if we change it to the boehner plan, the obama plan. let's start out with the do-nothing plan, because that's the plan we've got right now. the congressional budget office estimates our fiscal year 2013 deficit will be, well, $104 trillion for fiscal 2013, okay? and here's what happens to our national debt as a result of this baseline. it's going tt surge from $16.3 trillion to $17.5 trillion at 2013, then we get out here to about 2014, it's going to be, well, it's going to be about 19.4. 20.3 trillion, 20.3 trillion if we do nothing in 2016: and by 2022, out here, it's going to be $25.8 trillion. that's if we do nothing about this spending, this runaway spending, this irresponsible government. now let's take a look at what happens if president obama gets tough, and he gets it done. the president calling for $1.6 trillion in higher taxes. he wants $82 billion a year from that top 2%. by the way, that's the same amount of n
, president obama and house speaker boehner spending a sunday together to talk about the fiscal cliff. no word on any progress and the president will be in detroit today to speak about the economy. joining us right now is cnbc's chief washington correspondent john harwood. john, you had a great column over the weekend in the in, times whether you took a look back at what happened in 1990 where things were set up for a grit debate but maybe things were easier at that point because you didn't have the 24-hour news cycle. you had other things that made it easier the last time around. what does that lead us to think this time around? >> well, there are ways in which it was more difficult, as you just alluded to, becky. but there are a lot of similarities, too. there are warnings that the economy is going to take a huge hit if a multi year budget deal was not enacted. you had a republican party led by a president who had made a no tax pledge and who was trying to figure out a way out of that. when he finally did that, that's when the negotiations took on a faster pace. and i do think here the fact
when he talks to julia boorstin and live coverage of the president with remarks on the fiscal cliff before the business roundtable. can he convince corporate leaders he has the right solution for avoiding the fiscal cliff. one more look at futures this morning on a wednesday. look like open 28. "squawk on the street" is back in a minute. >> there's a look at citi. the news on the bank this morning cutting 11,000 jobs. still working on a percentage of what that is on the overall workforce. they think it will be a pretax charge of about a billion dollars. savings of 900 million in 2013. rising to about 1.1 billion in 2014. we'll keep an eye on that name. >> very big. >> yeah. shares of pandora taking a hit in premarket trade. online music service beat expectations with third quarter results. ceo joe kennedy says pandora's advertisers are displaying caution about spending because of the fiscal cliff. he'll be on "squawk on the street" at 11:40 eastern time. and netflix paying for exclusive rights to stream disney movies. a lot of happenings moving stocks in a big way. with pandora, ana
be done about the fiscal cliff talk. what surprised us off the record behind the scenes, democrats and republicans agree they should be doing a lot more than they're talking about as part of the current negotiations. they said if you did more on tax reform and particularly on the corporate side and more on social security as far as limiting the growth of that program, more on medicare, if you did something to exploit this oil and gas boom that we're seeing in north dakota, texas and across the country, if you did more to get high skilled immigrants into town, you could not only have an economic recovery but an economic boom. there's a lot of agreement off the record on this, but that politicians on both sides are scared to go out there and be the first to say, hey, let's do these big things that could have an appreciable effect on the economy. >> steve, do you agree with that assessment? what are the big things that need to be done? >> i totally agree. the thing that's depressing about the fiscal cliff plan, we will change the tax code, change this, a tax on gas to help the energy
party, and it comes around the issue of jobs. it comes around the issue of the fiscal cliff talks about what the party wants to be. whether there's going to be a tea party 2 or whether there's something of a vacuum that doesn't get filled with demint leaving the senate. >> all right. david, thank you so much. we'll be watching "meet the press" this sunday as we do every sunday. eugene, thank you as well. your latest column online at washingtonpost.com. >> guard that mustache, gene. >> i'm going to guard it with my life. >> and congressman emanuel cleaver, great to have you on set with us. >>> coming up, nbc chief white house correspondent chuck todd. and later in the show, "the economist" crunched the numbers and came up with the best countries to be born in in 2013. and the united states does not top their list. we'll find out who does ahead on "morning joe." [ male announcer ] there are plenty of reasons to be jolly at the chevy year-end event because chevy's giving more. more efficiency with sonic and cruze... more function in equinox and traverse... more dependability with the legen
will talk about the economic needs of middle class families and ways to avoid -- to avoid the fiscal cliff here on c-span. until then, more about the budget cuts and how they could affect the nation's defense budget and national security from this morning's "washington journal." host: we are continuing our series, looking at different parts of the fiscal cliff talks. today we want to focus on sequestration. joining us now is robert levenson, a senior defense analyst at bloomberg government. let's begin with what secret -- with what sequestration means. term. if you have looked it up on google 20 months ago, it would have something to do with coal and carbon, but this is about automatic cuts going into place known as sequestration. host: how did this come about? where is it headed? caller: as we recall from last year, there was a crisis over raising the debt ceiling. republicans demanded some cuts from congress. they agreed to $1 trillion in cuts, they handed over $1.50 trillion to the super committee. because they failed to come up with a deal that could be approved by congress and the pre
with a woman bound and gagged and sampras's coach street. >> talks continue as a lemon fiscal cliff approaches. we'll have details on the president's private meeting with house speaker john bay near coming up. >> clear conditions as you head out of the door, not really any fog to talk about. of the door expect 30's and 40's in mid to upper 60s later this afternoon. looking ahead we have some big changes to talk about in the form of wet weather. before we get their let's talk about conditions now. 39 in santa rosa up 39 out the door in fairfield. a look at your afternoon highs and walking through future cast four and my next report. >> a live look at traffic headed to san francisco. we hardly had a back up at the bay bridge toll plaza, now it is stretching almost towards the end of the parking lot thanks to three separate stalls. one of the incline one that the cancer we recession in one of the span. they're all out of the way but there is heavier traffic into san francisco. give yourself extra time as you head into san francisco. the bid is as the lights are still off. no major hot spots. majo
. >> good morning. on today's network tv talk shows, the topics include the so-called fiscal cliff and the negotiations between the white house and congress and the situation in the middle east. you could hear all the shows on cspan radio beginning at noon eastern. first is meet the press with senator dick durbin and kevin mccarthy. at 1:00 p.m., pierre abc's of this week with republican senator tom coburn and democratic senator debbie stabenow. the chair like to the house financial services committee, jeb hensarling and congressional progress of caucus co-chair. at 2:00 p.m. is fox news sunday with chris wallace and chuck schumer. and republican senator bob corker. also on the program is the israeli a bastard to the united states. cnn's state of the union follows and welcomes the managing director of the international monetary fund, christine lagarde. at 4:00 p.m., here "face the nation"where they talked with alan simpson and erskine bowles. also on the program, an interview with cory booker. the sunday network tv shows are repairing here on c-span at noon -- here on cspan radio.
. at the end of the day we've been talking about the fiscal cliff for a long time. you think they would have been working on this. >> they had been. >> they can't get it together. >> look, think if you were a small business. you have ten employees, right? you're just trying to weather, you know, demand that's down. you're trying to implement health care reform. you're trying to do all these other things and waiting for congress to fix the fiscal cliff and it hasn't quite happened yet. i mean what do you -- what do do you? i don't even know what some of these folks can do. >> can we switch gears? >> yeah, let me tell you about the fcc? >> sure. >> do you want to talk on your phone on the plane? >> yes, i do. >> i'm not sure i want everybody else to talk on the plane. >> put on the head phones. >> the top person at the fcc, the fcc chairman said on friday that the faa's policy on in-flight electronics bans is in question. 20 years of research doesn't show any kind of messing up with the planes and navigation of the systems. why is it in place? i think we're moving down this road. >> so no more
. >>> here is where we are on the fiscal cliff talks. we are less than three weeks now from the 1-2 punch of tax increases and government spending cuts and the two sides appear to be moving farther apart. here's house speaker john boehner describing his latest negotiations with the president, just over the phone last night. >> the president and i had a pretty frank conversation about just how far apart we are. >> dana bash is our senior congressional correspondent. she s unearthed some surprising new details here about the speaker's latest offer to the president. dana, what can you tell us? >> reporter: well, we were told first earlier today by democratic source that part of the reason why that phone call between the president and the speaker didn't go so well to put it mildly is because part of the republican counteroffer they sent to the white house yesterday included a renewed call for, quote, permanent tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. now, we know that that is a nonstarter in general for the president. he said it ump team times, but the democrats at the white house felt that to
're also going to have to talk more about ben bernanke. if we go off the fiscal cliff, it shows the irony of how the feds balance sheets isn't addressing the problem. it isn't addressing unemployment. one hand of the government is trying to do something that isn't working and the other hand is shooting in the foot. i think this is going to be interesting listening to bernanke on wednesday. >> ben has already put it out there there's not a lot the fed can do if we go off the fiscal cliff. you speak to a lot of smart people, rick santelli. >> and he's a smart person as well. >> to feel it's going to be a year of strong dollar or weaker dollar. i ask this because so many companies during their latest earning season have pointed to the strong dollar as a real problem for them if they're a multinational. >> i think the relationship between all the developed countries using printing presses like the dollar, yen, euro, are close to levels and ranges we'll see next year. i think in some of the asian currencies we need to pay more attention to. you can only swim so far in a round pool without bang
is still the gop's position in the fiscal cliff talks. that plan offers a total of $2.2 trillion in deficit reduction over the next decade, including $800 billion in new tax revenue, but no increases on the top 2% of taxpayers. that's where the stalemate seems to be centered. president obama insists taxes on the wealthy must go up. >> but when they start making a million or 10 million or 20 million, you can afford to pay a little more. >> reporter: several republicans indicated that's a concession they're willing to make. >> will i accept a tax increase as a part of a deal to actually solve our problems? yes. >> reporter: if nothing is done by january 1, income taxes will go up on almost all americans. >> there are no meetings scheduled this week between the president and house speaker john boehner. rob and paula, back to you. >>> the navy s.e.a.l. who died in that mission to rescue a kidnapped american doctor has been identified. nicholas checque was just 28 years old, but for the much of the last decade he had been part of navy s.e.a.l. team 6. the decision to rescue dr. joseph came from
a locomotive, if you will. and almost no one is paying attention to ias we focus on the fiscal cliff and what will be an agreement, ifs reached, at'll amou to something in the neighborhood of a couple trillion dollars >> and the forced union states are lookg for tte feral vernment to bail them out. but more important than that, the dems, the decrats don't want to lose the forced union states -- lou: well, i'm not talking about the fored union states now, i'm talking about every state in the union. and theact is that we're talking about unfunded ppnsion liabilities of $4 trillion, mallory. and -- >> but much worse in t forced unions. lou: excuse me, if i may finish. >> i'm sorry. lou: $4 trilliothat no one is paying attention to, how will it be resolved? >> it's tough to resolve, but it's much worse. e point i was trying to make is it' much worse the forced uniin states, much worse. it's almost double. that's one of the issues. we're going to have a big problem resolving that. it's going to be a major proem with services that are absolutely necessary not being able to ke up because of all th
the fiscal cliff. he'll talk at detroit diesel which is owned by germany's daimler, on extending middle class tax cuts for workers to keep pressure on republicans to cave on this issue, this after the president and speaker boehner met at the white house yesterday. a spokesperson for boehner says today, quote: discussions with the white house are taking place, but we have no detail to share about the substance of these conversations. he adds that republicans are waiting on specific spending cut proposals from the president to get a deal on the fiscal cliff. but a few republicans now say that maybe the best strategy for them is to accept some higher tax rate that is the president is demanding, get that off the table and then come back to entitlement reform early next year when the president asks for an increase in the debt ceiling. then republicans will have a little more leverage. >> there's a hardening on the republican side. we're not going to raise the debt ceiling. we're not going to let obama borrow any more money or any american congress borrow any more money until we fix this country fr
, whether it's more salient right as the fiscal cliff where they're talking about digging their heels in to protect the one percent? their brand now is defending tax cuts for the top, very top, of our country. and, also, digging our heels in on things like gay marriage where people are now moving to the left. or on comprehensive immigration reform. or even on things like birth control that 99% of the electorate have used. it doesn't really matter what issue you're looking at. republicans are finding themselves being pulled far to the right. and part of that is whether you have folks who may challenge speaker boehner for the speakership. you also have folks that are going to primary around the country. >> let me ask this before i come out of time. one of the rising stars at the republican convention and being tallied for 2016 is chris christie, governor of new jersey. he sat down with barbara walters who began asking the hard questions he may face in 2016. listen to this. >> there are people who say that you couldn't be president because you're so heavy. what do you say to that? >> tha
to get to talks. we do not want to go off the fiscal cliff. that's why we quickly responded to another proposal to the president. but the president refused to have a discussion. >> there's other reports that say republicans are looking for a fallback position, if he can't get the capps on deductions for more tax revenues and so forth. and it's going to be tax rates that the republicans might just vote present. some might vote present. some might vote aye and deal with the rates next year is. that just pure press speculation or is there anything to it? >> look, those are all press stories that are out there. we're trying to solve a problem. because if that came to fruition, that does nothing to solve the problem. and we just have an unbelievable amount of growth in government where we have to control the spending. if we want to truly save medicare and social security, we've got to do something about it. that's what republicans have been proposing all along. we want to solve a problem once and for all. and that's why we haven't waited -- it's interesting that we're just now talking about
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